#: 26416 S17/Surfing the Net
    09-Dec-95  22:17:08
Sb: #The Wave info
Fm: Dale F. Mentzer 75344,1346
To: All

This message contains a thread of messages from the comp.sys.cbm newsgroup
concerning a WWW browser for the C128. There has been some discussion here
about this subject and I thought others might like to read these messages
that were recently uploaded to our local Commodore BBS by another C= user.

[Message 8 of 9 in thread 10 of 286] comp.sys.cbm

Re: Please Help: Desterm V3 Due Date?
    From: Donovan Dyer <novan@delphi.com>
    Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 20:53:56 -0500    (Page 1 of 5)
    Responding to: Tomas Moberg <fr94tmg@ing.umu.se>

Check this out, from the Hosses mouth, so to speak ;-) 

30375 26-OCT 22:42
TElecommunications
     RE: WAVE (Re: Msg 30369)
     From: ARCA93
     To: NOVAN

Ok... The Wave - First the PDversion.  Yes, free. An ASCII terminal that
supports up to 28.8 baud modems. A SwiftLink cartridge is mandatory, and the
RS-232 interfaces that plug into the user port are not supported. This
program is in color and has a point and click interface complete with icons
and drop down menus. It has a 254 character chat mode using a single chat
line that scrolls horizontally. It has an 8K scroll back buffer and a virtual
buffer that is actually a geoWrite file. You load geoWrite directly from the
terminal and use it as your buffer editor. When you exit geoWrite, you are
returned to the terminal. You can cut and paste to the modem with text
scraps. This allows replies to messages to be held in text albums. Uploading
and downloading is not supported in the freebie version.

Now for The Wave, the commercial version... Includes all of the above, plus
uploading and downloading with all the usual popular protocols supported
including X, Y, and ZModem.  Automatic converting of GEOS files 'on the fly'
during the upload or download. This requires no input from the user, the
program automatically recognizes GEOS files and does the job. This feature
can also be turned off when you want to leave the GEOS files in a Commodore
format.

The Wave includes the above mentioned ASCII terminal that operates on a GEOS
graphic screen, plus an ANSI terminal that switches GEOS into an 80 column
text screen. You can toggle back and forth between the text screen and a
graphic screen to access the menus and icons. The ASCII terminal also
supports VT-100 commands. Within The Wave, each terminal has it's own name. 
The ASCII terminal is called "The Beachcomber". The ANSI terminal is known as
"The Sightseer". And there will also be a special terminal knowns as "The
Wild Surf". That one will be a Web Browser for cruisin down the beach. The PD
version is nearly finished. I have been using it now for a couple of weeks
and will upload it here when it is ready. No price or completion date has
been established for the commercial version yet. -Maurice

30386 28-OCT 08:51 TElecommunications
     RE: WAVE (Re: Msg 30383)
     From: NOVAN
     To: ARCA93 (NR)

Please excuse some more dumb questions, but; Will WAVE allow us to get into
Delphi if they go GUI only ? I thought that couldn't be done with a 128 ? But
I find you to do the imposible. And, the web browser module, will we see the
images that are on the web page, and be able to interact with the pages we
can only read now ? We were told, that wasn't within the bounds of the 128
either. Next, let us know what we will need to run it. I know geos 2.0,
Swiftlink, RL, and I think you said 64K video ? Thanks for the scoop, Don

30389 28-OCT 22:25
TElecommunications
     RE: WAVE (Re: Msg 30386)
     From: ARCA93
     To: NOVAN (NR)

Did you say that Web Browsing is not within the bounds of the 128? Heck, it's
within the bounds of the 64! I guess you can't send faxes with these machines
either, huh? If Delphi goes GUI only, then a Delphi module could be run from
The Wave. The Wave will have the ability to run special stuff like this, I am
planning it into the design. It only requires a little cooperation on the
powers that be. As for the machine (the 64 version will come later, so hold
your horses), the 128 will require 64K of video ram, a ram expansion device
which most serious GEOS users have anyway, a color monitor, a SwiftLink or
compatible device, a high-speed modem, and a large disk device such as a 1581
at a minimum. Preferably a hard drive with native partitions, a RamLink with
a large native partition, or an FD with native partitions will be
recommended. The Web Browser will display the graphic images within the
limitations or the 128's screen display. In other words, we will still see
the graphics but not in the same resolution or with as many colors.

Re: The Wave
    From: David Cummins <davcum@delphi.com>
    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 18:27:21 -0500    (Page 1 of 1)
    Responding to: <dutton@freenet.calgary.ab.ca>

<dutton@freenet.calgary.ab.ca> writes: >If there's a mailing list, please
put me on it!
 You might try getting in touch with:
                                    Click Here Software Co.
                                    P.O. Box 606
                                    Charlotte, MI 48813 At least that is the
return address on my GeoFax mailer. Maurice is EXTREMELY talented! So, if he
says he's gonna' do it, believe it. It's just a matter of when. Expect a
miracle. Dave

#: 26417 S17/Surfing the Net
    09-Dec-95  22:23:19
Sb: #26416-#The Wave info
Fm: Dale F. Mentzer 75344,1346
To: Dale F. Mentzer 75344,1346 (X)

Here are some more messages about The Wave WWW browser for the C128.


The Wave??????
    From: John Williams <theenforcer@delphi.com>
    Date: Thu, 7 DEC 95 23:37:35 -0500    (Page 1 of 2)
    Responding to: SCOTT HANAK <scott.hanak@wdn.com>

I can confirm that Maurice Randall is working on it, and he may be able to
release a public domain version before Christmas.  The PD version will be a
simple, monochrome ASCII term in 80 columns with no download protocols, but
it will have a buffer, and it will work with high-speed modems through a
SwiftLink.  He will release the commercial version later, which will be in
full color, will include a Web Browswer, and will probably have all the
popular download protocols, including ZModem and Kermit.  It will also
perform "on the fly" conversion of text files to GeoWrite format! And, yes,
it will be for the C128 only.

    From: Engineer Tim <tim@voyager.net> (Page 2 of 2)

Does that help answer your question? For all that don't know, Maurice does
run his own BBS.  The name of the BBS is "The Speed Zone".  Here is the
number if you are interested in signing up for a membership (No, he doesn't
charge) 1-517-322-2386 Make sure that your terminal program has Ansi, the
colors are terrific! Hope to see more on the "Speed Zone"!

Re: The Wave??????
    From: John LaDez <cruiser1466@delphi.com>
    Date: Fri, 8 DEC 95 22:51:06 -0500    (Page 1 of 1)
    Responding to: John Williams <theenforcer@delphi.com>

Potential users should also be aware that it will require 64K video ram
(standard in the 128D, but an upgrade for the "flat" 128).
